In this video series Niranjana caught up with Virali to know more about her journey and he experiences with Sree Maa.
Virali hails from Karachi, Pakistan, raised with a Christian background Virali always felt a sense of vacuum when it came to spirituality. Eventually at work, she came across Archita and their general discussion on spirituality opened up gateway to their spiritual quest. Looking back in time, it has been over 15 years since Virali first came across Sree Maa.
Niranjana: Thank you Virali for taking out time and coming for this interview. I know you could not make it for the interview but I know it is always a pleasure to meet you and I’m so grateful you came to meet and talk to us about the journey in the FiT programme and how your experience has been with Kosmic Fusion and Sree Maa Shri Ji
How did you meet Sree Maa Shri Ji and what do you think of Sree Maa Shri Ji
Virali: I met Sree Maa in 2008 and Archita was my flat mate at that time. Archita always spoke highly about Sree Maa, someone who has always been there for her, someone who has always guided her and give immense support. Sree Maa was in Singapore at that time and offered healing sessions at that time.
Coming from Pakistan, I did not have much experience with healing sessions. I always has tussle with my inner self if I should for a session or not. There was no compulsion to go or not to go.
Finally in 2008, I gathered courage and spoke to Sree Maa and requested for a healing. When I first met Sree Maa, I felt so welcomed and loved. When you meet someone for the first time, bonding takes some time. With Sree Maa it was so instant, we got into a conversation, I knew there was a healing session going on at that time but it didn’t feel like one.
I just opened up and started talking about myself, my challenges, and my spiritual self. It is hard to put it all into words, I felt nurtured and loved. I felt someone actually cared about me, what I’m going through (genuinely). You come across a lot of people who say lot but don’t mean it.
From then there has been no looking back. The love that has grown towards Sree Maa is boundless. Likewise what Sree Maa means to me and what Sree Maa is, cannot be put into words.
The beauty is that, I can feel Sree Maas’ presence even when I’m not with Sree Maa. It is the grace of Quantum Vortex Scalar-Wave Photon Pulse. It is such a guiding and supporting life for me.
I feel so protected, so loved and I know everything is taken care of – as it is not my effort.
Niranjana: You are one person Virali, who has known Sree Maa even before the FiT programme actually commenced. Can you tell me how has Sree Maa brought a difference in your life?
Virali: To me the difference was not right away, after I did the AwaKeNiN & Transformation workshop and then FiT programme – I felt gradual changes.
Now looking back I can feel the difference. I feel the reliance on someone higher than me, the awareness that it is not me who is doing it but higher force which is protecting and guiding me.
I feel the acceptance, non-judgmental, operating from humility.
I equate Quantum Vortex Scalar-Wave Photon Pulse to the Vibration of Absolute in my life. It is so overwhelming to know that we can be close to the Absolute. It was brought to me by the grace of Sree Maa Shri Ji.
Niranjana: In your eyes, are Sree Maa Shri Ji’s teachings consistent with the Ancient Eastern Philosophy or did they change over a period of time?
Virali: As I said Niranjana, I have seen Sree Maa as a teacher since 2014. I’m one of the participant who has been least involved, be it in the Q & A session or the FiT programme.
I can say very much that Sree Maas teachings are consistent with the Ancient Philosophies. What stands out for me is the Soul attaining Liberation, to get out of the cycle of Birth & Death for good – it is possible.
That stands out most for me. It is in line with the teachings of Sanatan Dharm, which was the crux of the FiT programme.
I’d also like to mention that I have known Sree Maa since 2008, never has Sree Maa forced any kind of teachings on me. Sree Maa has always lovingly guided & advised me and never imposed any kind of compulsion. That means a lot to me. Sometimes, when you see someone in the role of a teacher, you see this (teaching) is forced etc. but I have never experienced anything like that with Sree Maa. No strictness at all.
Niranjana: Are Sree Maa’s teachings direct and transparent or she withholds any information from you?
Virali: Not at all Niranjana.
Sree Maa doesn’t withhold any information and the teachings are very transparent. Sree Maa has always encouraged us to do our own research.
The crux of the FiT programme has been Sanatan Dharma. Sree Maa was very transparent and open, no information was with-held from us. It was all very lovingly put across.
The teachings have been taught to us in general manner. It is very direct, open and in a loving way. Those experiences were brought forward gracefully with Quantum Vortex Scalar-Wave Photon Pulse.
Niranjana: Do you think there will be people having resistance to such direct and open way of teaching?
Virali: I think so Niranjana. It’s a direct and open way of teaching, it encourages us to look at the dark side in us. People definitely feel attacked as they don’t like looking at the dark side but this is the only way we can transform ourselves.
Looking within will definitely be challenged. Even you know, there were couple of narcissists who felt challenged and in-return they challenged all of us.
The philanthropic mission of Kosmic Fusion was stunted because of their presence. It has all gone and behind us right now but such open way of teaching is definitely revolutionary.
Niranjana: Do you think Virali, Sree Maa will be prone to attack due to the nature of her teachings?
Virali: You know any kind of teaching that encourages people to look within is always challenging. Sree Maa has such a dynamic personality & compassionate presence that people who don’t have it feel jealous. That’s one reason Sree Maa may be prone to attack.
Just the jealousy factor that Sree Maa has something that they don’t have. It not just the teachings but Sree Maa loving and overwhelming presence. We have experienced it all during our journey, Sree Maa has often taken brunt of so much attack.
Niranjana: Did you ever feel Sree Maa forced or indoctrinated you to any kind of belief system?
Virali: No Niranjana, I have never felt any such force or compulsion from Sree Maa. Relationships have been my biggest challenge and whenever I have opened up or shared with Sree Maa, she never ever forced me rather lovingly guided & advised me. Actually I was told whatever choices I made, I will be the one responsible for it.
As I said, I have never taken Sree Maa as a teacher so opening to Sree Maa was so easy. Knowing Sree Maa never forces anything one me, made me go back to Sree Maa even more.
Sometimes when you see a person who forces their views, you would always want to stay away from such people – I never felt so with Sree Maa.
She is so loving and compassionate that I feel blessed to have Sree Maa in my life.
As you know I had so much of family commitments, I visit Karachi lot more now. Even in the past, never has Sree Maa ever reprimanded me that I should be attending a meeting or FiT duties etc. – that made me stay even more.
There was always so much of freedom to attend to my commitments and yet be part of Kosmic Fusion, at my own pace.
Niranjana: What was your experience of the FiT programme Virali?
Virali: Now when I look back, there are lot of mixed feelings. The greatest ease & satisfaction I get is offering my seva (service) to Sree Maa Shri Ji, which comes so naturally to me.
Sree Maa has been so gracious to accept such seva (service) in any which way possible. My attention span (as far as teachings were concerned) was very short and during the residential retreats, my only contribution was to offer seva which lovingly was accepted by Sree Maa.
I was never ever scolded or reprimanded for not listening to the teachings or participating in any of the questions or homework. In fact I never did so many exercises so many times, not because I didn’t want to but I could not relate at times.
On the other hand there were few individuals who left bad taste, they stunted me too. I could not bear to see their halfhearted efforts in doing any seva or work, they were totally disinterested.
Sree Maa is so loving that she never says no to anything even when such people were behaving abruptly – Sree Maa never said anything to them, just like how you or me, we were never ever reprimanded for anything.
Niranjana: I remember Virali, sometime in 2015 one of the fellow FiT came to you and said, give us all a chance to offer our service.
Virali: Exactly Niranjana. They complained about not giving them a chance but they didn’t do it by themselves either. It was just jealousy factor in them, they didn’t want to do anything and don’t want others to do either.
I still remember a time Niranjana, which upsets me very much. A small seva like washing the glass (for water), even that was not done properly – the glass was not even clean. It upset me so so much, how can you even do that!!
It’s hard for me to understand that a person can even do it. Through the FiT programme we have been bought to such an awareness that we need to be careful and maintain hygiene and also not see people like we are – we are so trusting, sometimes people are like wolves in sheep clothing. They hamper and stunt the growth of any spiritual mission, especially like Kosmic Fusion.
Niranjana: I remember an incident around the Ashram House Project?
Virali: Yes Niranjana. This is when Sree Maa had stepped down as our teacher. Since we felt we were not offering much, Jeeya and I felt we must start putting some amount and offer to the Ashram. We decided, Jeeya would give me all the receipts and I’d settle all that. It was all working fine till Joy Kuo came by, everything went haywire.
I was not given any account, I was not provided any bills/receipts – Joy just took over. She was so bossy that she felt no need of giving any accountability or explanation.
Suddenly it all felt odd, Joy was asking us more and not giving any account for what it was being used. We felt Joy (one of the Facilitator in Training) was asking everything for Sree Maa so we lovingly gave but later when the numbers went high then we felt something was amiss so we approached Sree Maa and the sad part is that Sree Maa was not even aware that money was collected on her name.
We felt horrible that someone was treating Sree Maa so badly in their own Ashram. The Power and Trust was misused by someone under the pretext of Sree Maas name.
These are harsh lessons at the end of the day.
Niranjana: If you were to sum up the FiT programme, how would you sum it up Virali?
Virali: I think the greatest satisfaction will be to be there for Sree Maa. I feel lucky to offer Seva for Sree Maa so effortlessly and naturally. That has been my biggest gain. I have never left any opportunity even in the smallest offering. Sree Maa has never ever stopped me from doing so.
I have been a bad student as far as teachings are concerned but I was given every opportunity to offer seva. I feel so thankful. That has been biggest blessing.
But the FiT that are no longer with us, I’d like to put behind and forget them completely. There was a time I wanted to leave due to some of them as I could not understand how people could be so mean, selfish and harsh – they think of only their personal gain.
Niranjana: Thank you Virali for giving your experience of FiT programme and your opinion about Sree Maa Shri Ji. My last question is, what is that inside you, that motivates you to take Sree Maa as your Guru and Guide.
Virali: I have always taken Sree Maa as the role of a mother, I have never considered Sree Maa as a teacher or a mentor. As I said this bond is so unique, whatever opportunity I had in the FiT programme is so gracious and loving that there is no motivation.
Being and having Sree Maa in life is just that, there is no motivation, there is no compulsion. This connection is so strong, that it is hard to give it a name. I have always considered Sree Maa as a friend, as a companion, as a friend – someone with whom I can open my heart.
Sree Maa has never compelled to see her as a teacher, this bond is so nice that I don’t want to let it go. The grace that I have experienced in my life has just grown.
I remember the time when I had my surgery last year, it was the grace, Quantum Vortex Scalar-Wave Photon Pulse & Sree Maa – everything was done so effortlessly. I had you & Archita also around to support me.
I’m so grateful for all of you in my life.
